{"id":470,"date":"2018-05-30T16:03:57","date_gmt":"2018-05-30T16:03:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/163.180.4.222\/lab\/?p=470"},"modified":"2019-10-15T19:32:56","modified_gmt":"2019-10-15T10:32:56","slug":"how-to-fit-in-when-you-join-a-lab-abroad","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biochemistry.khu.ac.kr\/lab\/?p=470","title":{"rendered":"How to fit in when you join a lab abroad"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/d41586-018-05215-9?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nature%2Frss%2Fcurrent+%28Nature+-+Issue%29\">\uc6d0\ubb38<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cultural differences can be both stimulating and challenging for researchers working or studying in a foreign country.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"article__body serif cleared\">\n<figure class=\"figure\">\n<div class=\"embed intensity--high\">\n<div class=\"embed intensity--high\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"figure__image\" src=\"https:\/\/media.nature.com\/w800\/magazine-assets\/d41586-018-05215-9\/d41586-018-05215-9_15764646.jpg\" alt=\"People in white coats walk down corridor\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption>\n<p class=\"figure__caption sans-serif\"><span class=\"mr10\">Researchers who choose to study or work abroad must adapt to customs, hierarchies and expectations that can differ greatly from those they are used to.<\/span>Credit: Shutterstock<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Punam Amratia grew up in Kenya, where she attended a British school. She then completed her bachelor\u2019s degree in statistics and a master\u2019s in epidemiology in the United Kingdom. In both nations, she was accustomed to people being blunt. If teachers didn\u2019t like her work, they were upfront about it. \u201cThey told me, \u2018It\u2019s crap. Go back and do it again,\u2019\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>So when Amratia started her PhD in malaria epidemiology in 2014, she did not sugarcoat her own opinions. During her first month at the University of Florida in Gainesville, her laboratory met to discuss a paper that her supervisor was reviewing. Amratia recalls calling the paper \u201cshit\u201d and saying that it should not be published. A US lab mate described the paper\u2019s positive attributes and outlined items that could be improved. Amratia\u2019s colleagues suggested to her that she could be more diplomatic. After the meeting, she tried to temper her directness.<\/p>\n<p>But Amratia also faced problems socializing with her PhD-committee members, partly because she didn\u2019t understand US popular-culture references. At a social event, while her colleagues laughed about a popular 1980s TV show, she stayed quiet because she was unfamiliar with it. Such incidents made it hard for her to establish a casual rapport with these faculty members, so she did not feel comfortable asking them for advice during her doctoral programme.<\/p>\n<p>Plenty of opportunities exist to study and work abroad. But some early-career scientists might face challenges adapting to different communication styles and different workplace and academic hierarchies. Supervisors and junior researchers can reduce the risk of misunderstandings by actively learning about each other\u2019s cultures and communicating workplace expectations clearly.<\/p>\n<p>It is important both to be sensitive to cultural differences and to avoid inadvertently stereotyping. Nanda Dimitrov, director of Western University\u2019s Teaching Support Centre in London, Canada, who has written about cross-cultural graduate supervision, says that it\u2019s important not to make assumptions about students solely on the basis of their culture. A wealthy Chinese student from Hong Kong, for example, could see things differently from one who comes from a rural area on the mainland, she notes. And individual perceptions can vary: Amratia says that she personally encountered directness more often in the United Kingdom than in the United States, but others might not have experienced this. Dimitrov points out that the relationship between junior researcher and supervisor is influenced by many factors including personality, previous experiences and the department\u2019s and discipline\u2019s workplace culture.<\/p>\n<p>Moving abroad to study or work has become more common, partly owing to encouragement from national governments and funding agencies. The number of students pursuing higher education abroad rose from 1.7 million in 1995 to 4.1 million in 2013, according to the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.unesco.org\/unesco_science_report\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"https:\/\/en.unesco.org\/unesco_science_report\" data-track-category=\"body text link\"><i>UNESCO Science Report: Towards 2030<\/i><\/a>, published in 2015 by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) in Paris. European funders promote the practice through programmes such as the Marie Sk\u0142odowska-Curie actions, which provide grants for researchers studying or working outside their home countries. From 2003 to 2010, the Chinese government increased the number of scholarships for studies outside China from fewer than 3,000 to more than 13,000. According to the UNESCO report, the regions with the highest proportions of students seeking higher education elsewhere are central Asia, Arab states, sub-Saharan Africa and Western Europe. The most popular destination for all outbound PhD students is the United States, where about half of international science and engineering PhD students are enrolled, followed by the United Kingdom, France and Australia.<\/p>\n<p>Many labs experience few problems with cultural differences. \u201cScience workplaces are so international,\u201d says Kaisa Kajala, a Finnish plant biologist at Utrecht University in the Netherlands who has studied or worked in the United Kingdom, Australia and the United States. \u201cPeople are pretty understanding of different cultures.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When misreadings do arise, however, it\u2019s important to address them, because the stakes are often high for international students. If research takes longer than expected, they might have difficulty extending visas or paying tuition fees. Principal investigators (PIs) who make invalid assumptions about a student\u2019s intentions might write tepid letters of recommendation for job applications or decide not to collaborate with that person after graduation.<\/p>\n<p>Expectations for behaviour in areas such as leadership, communication and feedback style can vary across cultures. \u201cWhile it is important never to stereotype, if we don\u2019t try and understand how cultures differ, we are missing a huge part of what shapes how people act and how misunderstandings can arise,\u201d says Andrew Spencer, director of Rose Window Consulting near Oxford, UK, who has run training programmes for international businesses (including Springer Nature) on managing and communicating across cultural boundaries. For instance, he says, in the Netherlands, negative feedback tends to be given clearly and unambiguously, whereas in Japan, criticism might be more indirect. Spencer recommends\u00a0<i>The Culture Map: Breaking Through the Invisible Boundaries of Global Business<\/i>\u00a0by Erin Meyer (PublicAffairs, 2014) for more examples.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"figure\">\n<div class=\"embed intensity--high\">\n<div class=\"embed intensity--high\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"figure__image\" src=\"https:\/\/media.nature.com\/w800\/magazine-assets\/d41586-018-05215-9\/d41586-018-05215-9_15764648.jpg\" alt=\"Professor and college student at laptop in science laboratory\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption>\n<p class=\"figure__caption sans-serif\"><span class=\"mr10\">Communication styles can vary across cultures.<\/span>Credit: Hero Images\/Getty<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>One point of difference that can arise is the appropriate level of deference to supervisors. Dimitrov says that some Nigerian, Egyptian and Chinese international students report that in their home nations, a large power differential between students and teachers is common, and that students generally follow instructions without arguing. But a supervisor from a country where debate is expected might sometimes incorrectly interpret a lack of questioning from the student as a lack of interest in the work, says Theresa Winchester-Seeto, an independent consultant on higher education in Sydney, Australia.<\/p>\n<p>Keshun Zhang faced this issue after moving from China to the University of Konstanz in Germany to pursue his PhD in psychology. He was used to following teachers\u2019 suggestions. But \u201cthe culture in Germany always encourages you to argue, to fight for yourself\u201d, says Zhang, now a postdoc at the university and co-author of the 2016 book\u00a0<i>When a Chinese PhD Student Meets a German Supervisor: Tips for PhD Beginners<\/i>(University of Konstanz). With his supervisor\u2019s encouragement, he started pushing back \u2014 for instance, if he thought data should be analysed using a different statistical method, he would say so. After his first year, his supervisor said, \u201c\u2018Wow, in this one year, finally you have learnt to say no,\u2019\u201d Zhang recalls.<\/p>\n<p>Zhang also realized that he was expected to work more independently than he had during his master\u2019s programme in China. In Germany, he peppered a postdoc with frequent questions about issues such as statistical methods. His supervisor urged him to try to solve problems on his own and to seek guidance only if he became stuck. Zhang initially found this approach difficult but came to prefer it.<\/p>\n<p>The absence of a strictly defined hierarchy can encourage freer communication, says Salim Reza, a radiation-detector scientist at Mid Sweden University in Sundsvall. When he moved from his native Bangladesh to Sweden for graduate studies, he learnt that he did not need to address faculty members as \u2018sir\u2019 or \u2018professor\u2019, or remain standing in their offices. This informality made it easier for him to approach professors to clarify a topic or to propose a new research angle. \u201cI could go with the craziest idea to my teacher, and he would explain why it was good or bad,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Supervisors also can clarify expectations for the student\u2019s responsibilities when they arrive. The\u00a0<i>Western Guide to Graduate Supervision\u00a0<\/i>(University of Western Ontario Teaching Support Centre, 2008) includes a rating scale that asks questions such as whether the student or supervisor will select the research topic and decide on methods. A student and PI could fill out the form together, discuss their answers and resolve discrepancies, Dimitrov says.<\/p>\n<p>Davor Solter, a mammalian-developmental biologist from Croatia who now splits his time between New Mexico and Maine, says that he never encountered problems owing to cultural differences as a PI in the United States, Germany and Singapore. His lab members\u2019 countries of origin were irrelevant to their performance, he says.<\/p>\n<p><b>Mixed messages<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, though, misunderstandings can stem from differences in communication style. In some countries, the \u2018feedback sandwich\u2019 is common, Dimitrov says: start with praise, suggest improvements and end with encouragement. Students from countries where this format is less common might think that because comments were mostly positive, the suggestions are optional and can be ignored, she says. To avoid such mishaps, students could write an e-mail after each meeting summarizing the feedback and next steps so that the supervisor can correct their interpretation if needed.<\/p>\n<p>Conversely, a student who is accustomed to gentler feedback might be \u2018traumatized\u2019 by cultural tendencies in other countries, such as Germany or the Netherlands, to give more direct criticism, Dimitrov says. Senior researchers could smooth over differences by discussing how the student prefers to receive comments, she suggests. Students could also talk to lab mates about the feedback; hearing others\u2019 stories of critiques \u2014 and positive outcomes, such as getting a paper accepted \u2014 could help them to overcome discouragement.<\/p>\n<p>Some researchers are surprised by their host country\u2019s e-mail practices. Laetitia Wilkins, a postdoc in evolutionary biology at the University of California, Berkeley, says that in her native Switzerland, people typically reply to nearly every work-related message. \u201cIt\u2019s almost mandatory that you answer,\u201d she says. In California, she found a more relaxed approach. When she e-mailed another researcher to request a data set and heard nothing, she wondered if she had done something wrong and the person did not want to collaborate. She did not send a follow-up message because, she says, that would be considered rude in Switzerland. Eventually she realized that ignoring or \u2018losing\u2019 e-mails was common in the United States. Now, if a message goes unanswered, she sends another e-mail a few days later and usually gets a friendly response.<\/p>\n<p>Other scientists find that the priorities attached to socializing differ from what they are used to. In Reza\u2019s experience, people in Bangladesh do not usually take coffee breaks at work. But in Sweden, he realized that it was important to attend\u00a0<i>fika<\/i>, coffee breaks that the department usually took each day. \u201cWe are obsessed with\u00a0<i>fika<\/i>,\u201d he says. The gatherings provide opportunities to make social plans, hear what other groups are doing and discuss research issues.<\/p>\n<p>Some scientists welcome the change of pace offered by a fresh environment. Ecologist Christine Lucas moved from the United States to Uruguay for a postdoc position and is now a faculty member at the University of the Republic in Paysand\u00fa. She found that her new colleagues tended to keep a better work\u2013life balance. When she became pregnant, she easily postponed the start of her postdoc by a few months; once she began, she had flexible hours, could sometimes work from home and designed a project that required little fieldwork. Friends who did postdocs in the United States seemed, to her, under more pressure to work with lab members face-to-face and to meet tough publication targets. And, she adds, it is acceptable for her department meetings in Uruguay to start 5\u201310 minutes late \u2014 allowing for unexpected obstacles such as transport strikes.<\/p>\n<p>Whether they are welcoming international students or starting work in new countries, scientists can ease the transition by remaining non-judgemental. People sometimes brush off a student from another country as \u2018rude\u2019, but \u201cin their culture, they\u2019re not\u201d, Amratia says. Researchers should also remember that their nation\u2019s customs aren\u2019t necessarily best. Solter says that his Croatian background helped him here: \u201cWhen you come from a small country, you don\u2019t assume everybody should be doing things your way,\u201d he says. \u201cI never cared if somebody was different than me as long as it didn\u2019t seriously affect the rest of the lab.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed box\">\n<h3 class=\"box__title sans-serif\">CULTURAL LESSONS<\/h3>\n<div class=\"box__content cleared\">\n<p>Many resources are available for international students and postdocs and their supervisors.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uwo.ca\/tsc\/faculty_programs\/pdf\/PG_3_MentoringAcrossCultures.pdf\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"https:\/\/www.uwo.ca\/tsc\/faculty_programs\/pdf\/PG_3_MentoringAcrossCultures.pdf\" data-track-category=\"body text link\"><i>Western Guide to Mentoring Graduate Students Across Cultures<\/i><\/a>\u00a0(University of Western Ontario Teaching Support Centre, 2009)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mq.edu.au\/lih\/altc\/cross_cultural_supervision_project\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"https:\/\/www.mq.edu.au\/lih\/altc\/cross_cultural_supervision_project\" data-track-category=\"body text link\">Cross Cultural Supervision Project website at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia<\/a>website at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.erinmeyer.com\/book\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"https:\/\/www.erinmeyer.com\/book\" data-track-category=\"body text link\"><i>The Culture Map<\/i><\/a>\u00a0(PublicAffairs, 2014) and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erinmeyer.com\/blog\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"https:\/\/www.erinmeyer.com\/blog\" data-track-category=\"body text link\">blog posts<\/a>\u00a0by Erin Meyer<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.andymolinsky.com\/download-cheat-sheet-to-10-cultural-codes-from-around-the-world\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"http:\/\/www.andymolinsky.com\/download-cheat-sheet-to-10-cultural-codes-from-around-the-world\" data-track-category=\"body text link\"><i>Cheat Sheet to 10 Cultural Codes From Around the World<\/i><\/a>\u00a0e-book by Andy Molinsky<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/nbn-resolving.de\/urn:nbn:de:bsz:352-0-349300\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"http:\/\/nbn-resolving.de\/urn:nbn:de:bsz:352-0-349300\" data-track-category=\"body text link\"><i>When a Chinese PhD Student Meets a German Supervisor: Tips for PhD Beginners<\/i><\/a>(University of Konstanz, 2016)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/book\/9780750675819\" data-track=\"click\" data-label=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/book\/9780750675819\" data-track-category=\"body text link\"><i>Managing Cultural Diversity in Technical Professions<\/i><\/a>\u00a0by Lionel Laroche (Butterworth\u2011Heinemann, 2002)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"box__author sans-serif\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span class=\"emphasis\">Nature<\/span>\u00a0<strong>557<\/strong>, 599-601 (2018)<\/p>\n<div class=\"emphasis\">doi: 10.1038\/d41586-018-05215-9<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; 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